3/28/25, 11:00 AM - Budget Hearing: Ways & Means, Clinton Town Hall, 242 Church Street, Clinton and virtual
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Date/Time: | 3/28/25 11:00 AM |
Location: | Clinton Town Hall, 242 Church Street, Clinton and virtual |
Committee: | Joint Committee on Ways & Means (JWM) |
Joint Committee on Ways and Means Fiscal Year 2026 Budget Hearing
Chairs:
Senator John Cronin
Representative Meghan Kilcoyne
Participants will be:
- Executive Office of Public Safety and Homeland Security
- District Attorneys
- Sheriffs
- Judiciary
- Ethics
- Office of Campaign Finance
- POST Commission
- Committee for Public Counsel Services
- Mass. Legal Assistance Corporation
- Mass. Commission Against Discrimination
- Victim and Witness Assistance
- Disabled Persons Protection Commission

03/28/2025 - Joint Committee on Ways and Means
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