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17677.41 SPEAKER417677.41 -17677.41 Representative17677.41 Sullivan17677.97 Almeida.17679.17
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21717 MICHLEWITZ21717 -21717 Thank21717 you,21717.24 Madam21718.2 Secretary,21718.36 and21718.36 please,21718.36 send21718.84 our21719.08 regards21719.24 to21719.64 Secretary21720.68 Snyder,21721.32 and21721.32 to21721.56 all21721.8 the21722.04 team21722.12 over21722.44 at21723.88 the21723.96 executive21724.12 office21724.6 of21724.84 technology21725 services21725.48 and21725.88 security.21726.04 We21726.44 appreciate21726.6 your21727 testimony,21727.16 your21728.12 patience21728.36 today21728.76 for21729.4 sticking21729.64 it21729.96 out.21730.12 We21730.55 appreciate21730.79 you21731.03 being21731.27 here21731.43 and21731.67 all21731.83 the21731.99 work21732.07 that21732.23 you21732.39 guys21732.67 do.21732.95 I21733.51 want21733.59 to21733.83 open21733.83 up21734.07 to21734.15 any21734.23 questions.21734.47 Senator21735.19 Collins.21735.51
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