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4/1/25, 1:00 PM - Committee Hearing: Election Laws, State House Room A-1 & Virtual

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Date/Time: 4/1/25 1:00 PM
Location: State House Room A-1 & Virtual
Committee: Joint Committee on Election Laws (JEL)
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The Joint Committee on Election Laws will hold a hybrid public hearing to solicit written and oral testimony in-person and remotely on constitutional amendment bills. 
 

The Chairs will limit testimony to three minutes per individual and ten minutes per panel. The Chairs reserve the right to call public officials out of turn. The public is invited to participate in this hybrid hearing, which will be live streamed on the Massachusetts Legislature website. To register to testify, you must provide contact information through THIS FORM by 12:00 PM on Tuesday, April 1, 2025. Written testimony may be submitted to the Joint Committee on Election Laws at 24 Beacon Street, Room 413-F, Boston, MA 02133, or by e-mail to Karen.Zirkle@mahouse.gov and Emerson.Gagnon@masenate.gov.

 

Please note that all written submissions may be made available to the public upon request. If you have any questions, please email Karen.Zirkle@mahouse.govand Emerson.Gagnon@masenate.gov.

 

Please be advised that the schedule and agenda are subject to change at the discretion of the chairs.


Related files:
Written Testimony: Progressive Mass. Testimony in Support of HB63 & SB7
Related to HB63 (HD407) - Rep. Erika Uyterhoeven (D) - Proposal for a legislative amendment to the Constitution relative to voting rights
Related to SB7 (SD1414) - Sen. Liz Miranda (D) - Proposal for a legislative amendment to the Constitution relative to voting rights

Written Testimony: League of Women Voters of Mass. Testimony in Support of HB63 & SB7
Related to HB63 (HD407) - Rep. Erika Uyterhoeven (D) - Proposal for a legislative amendment to the Constitution relative to voting rights
Related to SB7 (SD1414) - Sen. Liz Miranda (D) - Proposal for a legislative amendment to the Constitution relative to voting rights

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