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4/8/25, 1:00 PM - Committee Hearing: Judiciary, State House Room A-2 and Virtual

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Date/Time: 4/8/25 1:00 PM
Location: State House Room A-2 and Virtual
Committee: Joint Committee on Judiciary (JJU)
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Hearing 1 Chair: Michael S. Day
 

The public is invited to participate in this hearing, which will be livestreamed on the Legislature's website. The Chair will limit testimony to three minutes per individual and reserves the right to call public officials out of turn. To register to testify virtually, you must provide contact information on this linked form by 5:00 p.m. on April 6, 2025. Once registered, you will receive further instructions on how to participate. 

All those wishing to testify in person may sign up on the day of the hearing but are encouraged to sign up ahead of time at the link above. 

Written testimony may be submitted by mailing it to the Judiciary Committee at 24 Beacon Street, Room 136, Boston, MA 02133 or, for House bills, by email to Talia.Quinn@mahouse.gov or for Senate bills to Grace.Giordina@masenate.gov. All written testimony received by the Committee will be made publicly available. At the discretion of the Chairs, limitations and redactions may be made to testimony that includes sensitive personal information or information that may jeopardize the health, wellness or safety of the testifier or others.  

The Committee must report on all matters seeking to amend the Constitution before the Committee by April 30, 2025. The Committee must report on House bills considered during this hearing by June 7, 2025 subject to House Rule 27.  

 

With any questions regarding specific House bills, please contact Talia.Quinn@mahouse.gov. With any questions regarding specific Senate bills, please contact Grace.Giordina@masenate.gov.  


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