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4/9/25, 10:30 PM - Committee Hearing: Cannabis Policy, State House Room B-1 & Virtual

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Date/Time: 4/9/25 10:30 PM
Location: State House Room B-1 & Virtual
Committee: Joint Committee on Cannabis Policy (JMP)
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Hearing 1

Please be advised that the schedule and agenda are subject to change at the agreement of the Chairs. 

 

All matters filed in the House that are listed above are required to be reported on by June 8, 2025, subject to extensions consistent with House Rule 27. 

 

The public is invited to participate in this hybrid hearing, which will be livestreamed on the General Court website, https://malegislature.gov/. Hearings will be recorded and posted publicly on the Joint Committee on Cannabis Policy page:  https://malegislature.gov/Committees/Detail/J50/Hearings. 

 

At the discretion of the Chairs, written testimony received by the committee will be made publicly available. The committee may limit availability or redact testimony that includes sensitive personal information, information about minors, or information that may jeopardize the health, wellness or safety of the testifier or others. 

 

Written testimony can be submitted via email at meriah.metzger@mahouse.gov or physically mailed to the House Chair: 

Chairman Daniel M. Donahue

Joint Committee on Cannabis Policy

ATTN: Meriah Metzger

24 BEACON ST ROOM 544

BOSTON MA 02133

 

In-person oral testimony and remote testimony sign-up via email to Meriah Metzger at meriah.metzger@mahouse.gov 

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 For those testifying remotely, you will receive a Microsoft Teams link with more information prior to the start of the hearing. 

 

This hearing will be chaired by Chair Donahue. If you have any questions regarding the hearing, legislation, format of the hearing or reasonable accommodations required to ensure people with disabilities can participate fully in the committee process, please email: Liza Rosenof at Liza.Rosenof@MAHouse.gov. Chairman Donahue’s office can be reached via telephone: (617) 722-2637. 


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